1 00:00:50,530 --> 00:00:20,230 [Music] 2 00:00:59,890 --> 00:00:50,540 you 3 00:00:59,900 --> 00:01:10,749 [Music] 4 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:13,760 all right welcome back to the final day 5 00:01:17,810 --> 00:01:16,170 in our artemis week i am so glad to be 6 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:17,820 coming to you live from the Kennedy 7 00:01:22,039 --> 00:01:19,680 Space Center sort of I'm Joshua Santora 8 00:01:25,490 --> 00:01:22,049 bringing you two amazing ladies who are 9 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:25,500 working to do what needs to be done once 10 00:01:31,249 --> 00:01:27,810 we get to the moon Artemis is getting to 11 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:31,259 the moon with our eyes on Mars but it's 12 00:01:34,999 --> 00:01:33,329 only step one and it's a big step but I 13 00:01:37,310 --> 00:01:35,009 have with me today Jackie Quinn the EM 14 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:37,320 solo project manager Jackie thanks for 15 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:40,110 being here oh it's great to be with you 16 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:41,970 thanks yeah and then also joined by 17 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:44,490 Janeane captain both ladies applied 18 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:47,450 chemists I think is that correct 19 00:01:56,839 --> 00:01:55,200 hi yes very cool yes amazing skills and 20 00:01:59,029 --> 00:01:56,849 talents chemistry definitely not my 21 00:02:00,889 --> 00:01:59,039 forte so I appreciate ladies like you 22 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:00,899 who are conquering the difficult stuff 23 00:02:05,690 --> 00:02:03,330 in my mind so let's jump right in can 24 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:05,700 you give me both a snapshot of what you 25 00:02:10,789 --> 00:02:08,610 do obviously we saw job titles principal 26 00:02:11,390 --> 00:02:10,799 investigator and project manager what do 27 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:11,400 those things mean 28 00:02:17,539 --> 00:02:15,209 I'm Jackie we'll start with you okay so 29 00:02:21,259 --> 00:02:17,549 I'm the project manager for in solo and 30 00:02:24,770 --> 00:02:21,269 I work alongside Jenny basically my 31 00:02:26,690 --> 00:02:24,780 functions are to deal with the overall 32 00:02:28,250 --> 00:02:26,700 management of the project like schedule 33 00:02:30,410 --> 00:02:28,260 adherence ensuring that we have enough 34 00:02:32,270 --> 00:02:30,420 budget um I also make sure we have the 35 00:02:33,949 --> 00:02:32,280 the staff available with the right skill 36 00:02:35,569 --> 00:02:33,959 set to work on the project and then you 37 00:02:37,099 --> 00:02:35,579 know occasionally I get to put in a few 38 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:37,109 tidbits based on my technical background 39 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:38,970 so that's what I do 40 00:02:42,199 --> 00:02:40,530 and I think that's a really important 41 00:02:45,319 --> 00:02:42,209 note of just the fact that there's a lot 42 00:02:47,479 --> 00:02:45,329 of things that are not technical that go 43 00:02:50,300 --> 00:02:47,489 into this world so definitely a diverse 44 00:02:51,590 --> 00:02:50,310 skill set required so I'm sure that's 45 00:02:53,030 --> 00:02:51,600 again not actually your favorite thing 46 00:02:56,030 --> 00:02:53,040 to do but very important aspects to the 47 00:02:58,699 --> 00:02:56,040 job well Jeanine as a principal 48 00:03:00,530 --> 00:02:58,709 investigator what that sounds really 49 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:00,540 important so for EM so but what does 50 00:03:06,289 --> 00:03:04,260 that mean so as the principal 51 00:03:08,180 --> 00:03:06,299 investigator for ENSO I'm responsible 52 00:03:11,059 --> 00:03:08,190 for the science and the instrument 53 00:03:13,550 --> 00:03:11,069 performance but you know I'm not the 54 00:03:16,460 --> 00:03:13,560 most important thing at all we work with 55 00:03:18,289 --> 00:03:16,470 an amazing team of folks at KSC and 56 00:03:18,820 --> 00:03:18,299 different NASA centers and our 57 00:03:20,590 --> 00:03:18,830 commercial 58 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:20,600 and we're ready to get this instrument 59 00:03:26,530 --> 00:03:25,190 to go to the mom so we got to take a 60 00:03:29,170 --> 00:03:26,540 step back for a second because we didn't 61 00:03:30,730 --> 00:03:29,180 actually talk about what M solo is so we 62 00:03:32,380 --> 00:03:30,740 kind of know what you do for this this 63 00:03:33,850 --> 00:03:32,390 mission or payload or I'm not exactly 64 00:03:35,140 --> 00:03:33,860 sure the right way to describe it we 65 00:03:37,300 --> 00:03:35,150 have very interesting terms for things 66 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:37,310 like this can you tell us more about 67 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:42,410 what is M solo yeah sure so I'm solo 68 00:03:47,590 --> 00:03:45,170 stands for mass spectrometer observing 69 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:47,600 lunar operations you know NASA loves the 70 00:03:51,820 --> 00:03:50,330 acronyms so this is a modified 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:51,830 commercial instrument that measures 72 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:55,010 gases so we're partnering with infocon a 73 00:04:00,310 --> 00:03:57,890 company in Syracuse New York here on 74 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:00,320 earth this instrument is used in the 75 00:04:04,449 --> 00:04:02,450 semiconductor industry but we're 76 00:04:07,470 --> 00:04:04,459 actually going to use it to detect water 77 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:07,480 and other volatiles on the lunar surface 78 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:12,560 and can you can you give me kind of a 79 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:15,050 picture of what does that mean exactly 80 00:04:19,750 --> 00:04:16,370 you use an interesting term they're a 81 00:04:22,180 --> 00:04:19,760 volatile obviously it's a research 82 00:04:25,570 --> 00:04:22,190 mission can you tell me a little more 83 00:04:27,430 --> 00:04:25,580 about that yeah so you know in planetary 84 00:04:29,409 --> 00:04:27,440 science when we talk about volatiles 85 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:29,419 we're talking about compounds that have 86 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:31,370 low boiling point so things that are 87 00:04:35,530 --> 00:04:33,650 typically found in the atmosphere so 88 00:04:37,630 --> 00:04:35,540 things you know oxygen nitrogen and 89 00:04:40,270 --> 00:04:37,640 water are all considered volatiles and 90 00:04:42,550 --> 00:04:40,280 so we're looking at measuring things 91 00:04:44,500 --> 00:04:42,560 that we can use as resources on the 92 00:04:46,030 --> 00:04:44,510 lunar surface and I think we have a 93 00:04:48,780 --> 00:04:46,040 video if you want to play the video no 94 00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:48,790 fur I'm so long yeah let's take a look 95 00:04:56,980 --> 00:04:52,880 I'm solo stands for mass spectrometer 96 00:04:58,990 --> 00:04:56,990 observing lunar operations we took an 97 00:05:00,970 --> 00:04:59,000 off-the-shelf mass spectrometer and 98 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:00,980 worked with Ethicon to ruggedized the 99 00:05:05,170 --> 00:05:02,750 design to withstand the harshness of 100 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:05,180 space we bolstered the glass instrument 101 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:07,490 detector redesigned the avionics boards 102 00:05:10,990 --> 00:05:08,930 for better heat flow and increased 103 00:05:12,940 --> 00:05:11,000 radiation tolerance and applied other 104 00:05:16,090 --> 00:05:12,950 standard space flight practices into the 105 00:05:18,130 --> 00:05:16,100 design on the lunar surface M solo can 106 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:18,140 measure resources like water crucial to 107 00:05:21,940 --> 00:05:20,210 deep-space exploration and it can 108 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:21,950 measure the gases coming off a lander 109 00:05:25,900 --> 00:05:24,290 during touchdown this is important so we 110 00:05:27,670 --> 00:05:25,910 know what is truly coming from the moon 111 00:05:29,770 --> 00:05:27,680 and what we brought with us being able 112 00:05:31,350 --> 00:05:29,780 to identify the lander signature will 113 00:05:33,659 --> 00:05:31,360 ensure we are only measuring 114 00:05:35,790 --> 00:05:33,669 what was already on the lunar surface M 115 00:05:37,559 --> 00:05:35,800 solo will be sent to the moon as part of 116 00:05:39,629 --> 00:05:37,569 the commercial lunar payload services 117 00:05:41,369 --> 00:05:39,639 contract essentially commercial 118 00:05:43,260 --> 00:05:41,379 companies are building lunar landers and 119 00:05:44,399 --> 00:05:43,270 technology like ours is hitching a ride 120 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:44,409 down to the surface 121 00:05:47,999 --> 00:05:46,210 not only will M so it will help us learn 122 00:05:49,290 --> 00:05:48,009 more about the moon and ultimately 123 00:05:51,420 --> 00:05:49,300 change the way we explore our solar 124 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:51,430 system but the new rugged designed we 125 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:53,050 helped create is changing things down 126 00:05:57,570 --> 00:05:55,330 here on earth too by modifying an 127 00:05:59,820 --> 00:05:57,580 off-the-shelf mass spectrometer NASA 128 00:06:01,439 --> 00:05:59,830 helped M pecan identify ways they could 129 00:06:03,450 --> 00:06:01,449 improve their product that would also 130 00:06:05,189 --> 00:06:03,460 help universities and other researchers 131 00:06:08,670 --> 00:06:05,199 using their equipment in harsh 132 00:06:10,499 --> 00:06:08,680 environments here on earth in Costa Rica 133 00:06:12,510 --> 00:06:10,509 investigators are flying a commercial 134 00:06:15,119 --> 00:06:12,520 mass spectrometer on drones over 135 00:06:17,339 --> 00:06:15,129 volcanoes safely detecting what gases 136 00:06:19,170 --> 00:06:17,349 are being emitted information from 137 00:06:20,779 --> 00:06:19,180 volcanic plumes provides insight into 138 00:06:23,189 --> 00:06:20,789 what is happening inside the volcano 139 00:06:24,379 --> 00:06:23,199 alerting researchers if a major eruption 140 00:06:27,689 --> 00:06:24,389 is imminent 141 00:06:30,540 --> 00:06:27,699 we are proud of em so of capabilities in 142 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:30,550 space and right here on earth and now 143 00:06:35,899 --> 00:06:32,710 we're headed to the moon from Kennedy 144 00:06:38,490 --> 00:06:35,909 Space Center I'm Patricia Valentine 145 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:38,500 alright so one of the many things in 146 00:06:41,969 --> 00:06:40,000 that video was I heard them mentioned 147 00:06:44,519 --> 00:06:41,979 the I think it's the commercial lunar 148 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:44,529 payload services which I believe we 149 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:46,150 affectionately call clips 150 00:06:51,149 --> 00:06:48,250 what is Clips it sounds really important 151 00:06:53,100 --> 00:06:51,159 for our future on the moon yeah it is so 152 00:06:55,260 --> 00:06:53,110 you know as you mentioned the commercial 153 00:06:57,450 --> 00:06:55,270 inner payload services program is NASA's 154 00:06:59,760 --> 00:06:57,460 way of partnering with the commercial 155 00:07:01,950 --> 00:06:59,770 lunar market using emerging lander 156 00:07:04,019 --> 00:07:01,960 technologies to deliver NASA's ready to 157 00:07:07,619 --> 00:07:04,029 fly payloads to the surface of the Moon 158 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:07,629 so M solo 1 is set to fly on the 159 00:07:11,519 --> 00:07:09,849 Astrobotic lander and that was awarded 160 00:07:13,950 --> 00:07:11,529 during the first round of the clips 161 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:13,960 opportunities so that mission is going 162 00:07:17,969 --> 00:07:15,969 to be going to the equatorial region of 163 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:17,979 the moon and so while we don't expect to 164 00:07:21,540 --> 00:07:19,930 find water there you know as was 165 00:07:23,820 --> 00:07:21,550 mentioned in the video it's important 166 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:23,830 for us to understand what we brought 167 00:07:28,769 --> 00:07:26,319 with us and really establish a baseline 168 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:28,779 of what our environment is going to look 169 00:07:33,209 --> 00:07:30,370 like when we land with these commercial 170 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:33,219 partners and so from there we're also 171 00:07:36,570 --> 00:07:34,270 going to look for some science 172 00:07:38,850 --> 00:07:36,580 opportunities and trying to understand 173 00:07:40,969 --> 00:07:38,860 how the thermal cycling influences the 174 00:07:43,999 --> 00:07:40,979 abundance of gasses on the moon as well 175 00:07:46,730 --> 00:07:44,009 and that mission is set to fly in 20 176 00:07:48,859 --> 00:07:46,740 twenty-one so we're really excited to 177 00:07:52,010 --> 00:07:48,869 have an instrument on the lunar surface 178 00:07:53,659 --> 00:07:52,020 next year and then a second M solo 179 00:07:55,489 --> 00:07:53,669 instrument is actually going to fly and 180 00:07:57,679 --> 00:07:55,499 the recently awarded Mastiff Lander and 181 00:07:59,389 --> 00:07:57,689 that is actually going to land near the 182 00:08:02,409 --> 00:07:59,399 lunar South Pole and that's gonna land 183 00:08:05,749 --> 00:08:02,419 on the next year in 2022 184 00:08:07,579 --> 00:08:05,759 so you mentioned I think you mentioned 185 00:08:09,879 --> 00:08:07,589 water ice as being something different 186 00:08:12,290 --> 00:08:09,889 about these two regions is that really 187 00:08:13,850 --> 00:08:12,300 the big difference there and why you go 188 00:08:17,899 --> 00:08:13,860 to the pole versus go to the the 189 00:08:21,079 --> 00:08:17,909 equatorial region yeah and that is one 190 00:08:22,939 --> 00:08:21,089 of the big differences the the water is 191 00:08:25,159 --> 00:08:22,949 such a resource that we really need it's 192 00:08:26,989 --> 00:08:25,169 the easiest resource for us to use and 193 00:08:28,730 --> 00:08:26,999 so that's why we want to go to these 194 00:08:33,319 --> 00:08:28,740 polar areas where we think there is 195 00:08:35,959 --> 00:08:33,329 stable water is awesome and can you give 196 00:08:37,759 --> 00:08:35,969 me kind of a snapshot of what are your 197 00:08:39,949 --> 00:08:37,769 backgrounds and obviously mentioned 198 00:08:40,939 --> 00:08:39,959 engineer and applied chemist but how do 199 00:08:43,759 --> 00:08:40,949 you get to the point where you're 200 00:08:46,819 --> 00:08:43,769 working on a science instrument to go to 201 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:46,829 the moon to use water ice like that's 202 00:08:54,769 --> 00:08:49,290 just that that's a really amazing NASA 203 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:54,779 II kind of thing to do yeah so so 204 00:08:59,990 --> 00:08:56,970 actually when I got my graduate degree 205 00:09:02,540 --> 00:09:00,000 working in a little chemistry and I 206 00:09:05,629 --> 00:09:02,550 worked on building vacuum chambers and 207 00:09:07,550 --> 00:09:05,639 operating doing you know vacuums kind of 208 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:07,560 science and so I was able to take that 209 00:09:11,210 --> 00:09:09,930 experience and apply it to what we were 210 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:11,220 doing here 211 00:09:16,670 --> 00:09:13,769 so having that hands-on experience for 212 00:09:18,199 --> 00:09:16,680 me really allowed me to jump in and do 213 00:09:21,290 --> 00:09:18,209 some technology development and really 214 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:21,300 focus on you know going to the moon and 215 00:09:30,170 --> 00:09:24,510 you know simulating that environment of 216 00:09:32,030 --> 00:09:30,180 the moon here on earth very cool and we 217 00:09:33,530 --> 00:09:32,040 are wrapping up here bat-time 218 00:09:34,699 --> 00:09:33,540 Jackie I wanted to let you answer that 219 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:34,709 question if you had more thoughts and 220 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:38,130 also just ask you as well what's it like 221 00:09:42,170 --> 00:09:39,600 to be a part of the Artemis program 222 00:09:44,269 --> 00:09:42,180 obviously this is a huge flagship moment 223 00:09:46,550 --> 00:09:44,279 for the agency as we're returning to the 224 00:09:48,319 --> 00:09:46,560 moon 50 years after the first time 225 00:09:51,949 --> 00:09:48,329 around so just curious to hear from you 226 00:09:53,389 --> 00:09:51,959 what that's been like well it's really 227 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:53,399 cool to be part of the Artemis program 228 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:56,160 because you know it's it's it's the next 229 00:09:57,940 --> 00:09:56,690 step 230 00:09:59,920 --> 00:09:57,950 that were taken where we're gonna send 231 00:10:01,840 --> 00:09:59,930 the first woman and the next man back to 232 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:01,850 the moon and and I know you're talking 233 00:10:06,670 --> 00:10:05,330 to two PhD women engineer and scientists 234 00:10:09,100 --> 00:10:06,680 and that's you know especially 235 00:10:11,620 --> 00:10:09,110 meaningful for us you know we do have 236 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:11,630 another another mission the NASA Viper 237 00:10:15,220 --> 00:10:13,730 mission is also planned to be delivered 238 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:15,230 to the surface of Moon by a klipse 239 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:18,290 provider Viper it stands for the vault 240 00:10:23,410 --> 00:10:20,690 holes investigating polar exploration 241 00:10:26,170 --> 00:10:23,420 rover and then just to give you a little 242 00:10:30,010 --> 00:10:26,180 preview that that Viper mission is like 243 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:30,020 a golf sized mobile robot that we're 244 00:10:33,790 --> 00:10:31,850 sending to the South Poles moon to get a 245 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:33,800 close-up view of the location and the 246 00:10:39,340 --> 00:10:36,530 concentration of water ice and that is 247 00:10:43,330 --> 00:10:39,350 where we plan to the humans will land on 248 00:10:46,270 --> 00:10:43,340 the Artemis program in 2024 just just a 249 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:46,280 viper is that the first resource mapping 250 00:10:51,250 --> 00:10:49,250 mission on another celestial body that 251 00:10:53,890 --> 00:10:51,260 resource being water and water you see 252 00:10:55,630 --> 00:10:53,900 can be turn into oxygen or turn you 253 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:55,640 could turn the oxygen in from the water 254 00:11:02,020 --> 00:10:58,330 into breathing air and also into fuel 255 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:02,030 the Viper Rover in particular carries a 256 00:11:08,110 --> 00:11:04,850 suite of scientific instruments that 257 00:11:11,110 --> 00:11:08,120 includes neutron spectrometer a near 258 00:11:13,690 --> 00:11:11,120 infrared spectrometer and also in solo 259 00:11:16,180 --> 00:11:13,700 in addition to a drill that'll take a 260 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:16,190 meter deep sample and carry the lunar 261 00:11:21,010 --> 00:11:18,770 soil to the surface for evaluation of 262 00:11:22,990 --> 00:11:21,020 its volatiles and collectively that 263 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:23,000 those instruments will determine the 264 00:11:27,850 --> 00:11:24,770 composition and the concentration of the 265 00:11:30,550 --> 00:11:27,860 resources at the South Pole including 266 00:11:32,380 --> 00:11:30,560 water so we believe that the Viper 267 00:11:34,330 --> 00:11:32,390 robotic mission will bring us closer to 268 00:11:36,430 --> 00:11:34,340 NASA's ultimate goal of a sustainable 269 00:11:38,140 --> 00:11:36,440 long-term presence on the moon and 270 00:11:40,780 --> 00:11:38,150 making it possible to explore even 271 00:11:43,030 --> 00:11:40,790 further on to Mars and beyond so as you 272 00:11:44,770 --> 00:11:43,040 note our first step being part of that 273 00:11:47,380 --> 00:11:44,780 Artemis mission and really making it 274 00:11:49,390 --> 00:11:47,390 being part of it is just just super 275 00:11:52,810 --> 00:11:49,400 foundational and I know we're all super 276 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:52,820 excited as far as the solo team I give a 277 00:11:56,680 --> 00:11:55,250 shout out to the team we have an amazing 278 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:56,690 group of engineers and scientists that 279 00:12:00,160 --> 00:11:58,130 we work with and denene and I are truly 280 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:00,170 privileged to to be part of that in a 281 00:12:05,530 --> 00:12:01,730 solo team and also to be part of the 282 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:05,540 Viper team so appreciate it yeah 283 00:12:09,620 --> 00:12:07,770 Jackie Jeanine appreciate you joining us 284 00:12:11,950 --> 00:12:09,630 cannot wait to see you guys with science 285 00:12:14,780 --> 00:12:11,960 on the moon again very very soon 286 00:12:15,860 --> 00:12:14,790 absolutely thank you all right and for 287 00:12:18,050 --> 00:12:15,870 all of our viewers out there that's 288 00:12:19,700 --> 00:12:18,060 gonna do it for today we want to give 289 00:12:21,260 --> 00:12:19,710 everybody a clue we're taking a break 290 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:21,270 from this program we're getting ready 291 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:22,890 for demo2 mission coming up in just a 292 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:23,520 week and a half 293 00:12:27,020 --> 00:12:25,410 very exciting as humans take flight from 294 00:12:28,790 --> 00:12:27,030 America to the space station once again 295 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:28,800 but that's going to do it from all all